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Post by banger on Jun 1, 2011 7:30:05 GMT
Why is it that it's always the well backed horses that get injured before any big race?
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Post by Kimmy on Jun 1, 2011 8:58:11 GMT
I can see you are thinking along the same lines as me.
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Post by Old Timer on Jun 1, 2011 17:09:52 GMT
I can't think that way, as it is winning such a race as the Derby that determines their future stud fees, and that is where the money is, not in the prize money to be won.
Oldtimer
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Post by Kimmy on Jun 1, 2011 20:49:04 GMT
OT
Yes but there is no guarantee that a horse will win a race. If it gets beat people only remember winners and stud value compared to the winner go out of the window. It just seems strange that over the years many many heavily backed horses in big races and been scratched just days before the off. Perhaps its just that Banger and myself remember these things and are reading something in it that's not there? There is no such thing as a certainty in racing unless its a non runner.
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Post by Old Timer on Jun 2, 2011 4:52:14 GMT
Kimmy,
If you looked at the figures you'd probably find the the percentage is not much different to those not so well fancied horses that suffer injuries too. However, it's usually only the well-backed you notice because they're more newsworthy, the others slipping by virtually unreported by the main press.
It's not that I'm any less suspicious of the moves of trainers (and owners), but I can't see where there can be anything to gain by pulling a well-backed horse out of a big race. With the classics for instance, it's not as if you can come back and win it next year.
Cheers
OT
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Post by BC on Jun 2, 2011 12:58:21 GMT
...but I can't see where there can be anything to gain by pulling a well-backed horse out of a big race... I'm not familiar with ante-post betting, having only ever done this once... the day before the horse was pulled out! So I've just had a look at the Betfair FAQ on ante-post, which says this: - Withdrawn selections on Antepost markets will be settled as a loser while withdrawn selections from the DOTR (day of the race) will be void.
- Only ‘Balloted out’ selections on Antepost markets will be void, other selections will stand if run or not.
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Post by banger on Jun 3, 2011 6:06:31 GMT
The Queen's Carlton House is set to take his place in the Investec Derby at Epsom on Saturday after showing positive signs following an injury scare. Let;s hope that faith is rewarded and it's hats off to rhe Queen  Failing to win well we did warn everyone |
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Post by Kimmy on Jun 3, 2011 7:48:48 GMT
IMHO there are lots of twists and turns to big race favs. being scratched after the money is down. Still that's just my view. Obviously some are genuine but perhaps some are not. In the Derby the fav. had been heavily backed. After the scare the 2nd fav. was heavily backed. Bookies now have one to cancel out the other should either win. Before they had massive liabilities on just one horse. Perhaps neither will win money in their bank. Chance for your horse to win a £million and £millions in stud fees. CHANCE not certain. Anything can happen in a race. £million to withdraw your house certain £million in your pocket with no risk attached. I can think of lots of other reasons. Its just my suspicious way of thinking.
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