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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 8, 2009 8:09:40 GMT
Ive heard those mentioned as well on more than one occassion and by more than one person,especially in regard to flat racing.
This method has caused me to look at racing in a different way to normal,I am a systemite at heart.That being said I am now starting to see why some "systems" fail and are destined to fail.
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Post by Les on Jul 8, 2009 8:10:32 GMT
he,s went to the bother to give this horse c/d experience no?
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 8, 2009 8:12:47 GMT
will he use its c/d experience the same as cyflymder on saturday and the same as montiboli and go early and say well pass me? This is quite possible.We need a site that gives us a run down of the courses.Some tracks literally lend themselves to tactical racing more than others.
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 8, 2009 8:15:18 GMT
he,s went to the bother to give this horse c/d experience no? He has yes.The more I am looking at this race the more inclined I am coming to bet.
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Post by Les on Jul 8, 2009 8:17:45 GMT
i know its hard to give weight away at this course
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Post by Kimmy on Jul 8, 2009 8:18:41 GMT
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Post by Les on Jul 8, 2009 8:18:56 GMT
its begging for a 20/80 anyway?
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Post by Kimmy on Jul 8, 2009 8:19:54 GMT
COURSE Class/Left/Right Gall/Tight Und/Flat Finish Str Draw Suit Front run /Hold up class ASCOT A R GALL UNDU STIFF SR 5-8f Hold Up A AYR A L GALL FLAT LEVEL LR 5-6f Front Run A BATH C L GALL FLAT STIFF LR None Front Run C BEVERLEY C R EASY FLAT STIFF SR 5f H to 8f, ex sf when L Front Run C BRIGHTON B L TIGHT UNDU None L Sprints Front Run B CARLISLE D R EASY UNDU STIFF None L on sf Front Run D CATTERICK D L TIGHT UNDU None L esp 6f; H 5f sf Front Run D CHEPSTOW C L EASY UNDU 5-8f Front Run C CHESTER B L TIGHT FLAT LEVEL SR None L ex 7f Hold Up B DONCASTER A L GALL FLAT LEVEL LR 5-8f L in big fields Hold Up A EPSOM A L EASY UNDU EASY UND LR 5f dwn L-M big fields 6/7f A FOLKESTONE D R EASY UNDU EASY UND SR 5-6f H 5/6f Front Run D GOODWOOD A R TIGHT UNDU STIFF UND LR 5-6f H on Rnd esp 7f A HAMILTON C R TIGHT UNDU STIFF UND LR 5-6f H 5/6f & 8f esp sf Front Run C HAYDOCK A L GALL FLAT LEVEL LR 5-6f H 5/6f on sf A KEMPTON A R TIGHT FLAT LEVEL 5-6f H 5/6f esp on sf Hold Up A LEICESTER C R GALL FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5-8f M to H 5/8f C LINGFIELD B (TURF) L TIGHT UNDU STIFF UND SR 5-7.5f Front Run B MUSSELBURGHD R TIGHT FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5f L 5f sf Front Run D NEWBURY A L GALL FLAT 6-8f H 5/6f sf Hold Up A NEWCASTLE A L GALL FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5-7f L 5/7f gd or fstr Hold Up A NEWMARKET July A R GALL FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5-8f Hold Up A NEWMARKET Rowley A R GALL FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5-10f Rail big fields 5/10f Hold Up A NOTTINGHAM C L GALL FLAT LEVEL LR 5-6f Hold Up C PONTEFRACT C L EASY UNDU STIFF SR None Hold Up C REDCAR B L GALL FLAT LEVEL SR 5-8f H 5-8f B RIPON B R TIGHT UNDU STIFF UND SR 5-6f H Rnd L Str Front Run B SALISBURY B R EASY FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5-8f H 5/6f exc sf L Hold Up B SANDOWN A R EASY FLAT STIFF LVL LR 5f H sf A THIRSK B L TIGHT UNDU LEVEL LR 5-6f U H 5/6f esp fm B WARWICK D L TIGHT FLAT LEVEL LR None L gd or faster Hold Up D WINDSOR C R TIGHT FLAT LEVEL SR 5-6f H 5/6f gd L 5/6 sf Front Run C YARMOUTH C L EASY FLAT LEVEL LR 5-8f H 5/8f Front Run C YORK A L GALL FLAT LEVEL LR 5-6f M 5/6f L/M Rnd Hold Up A
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Post by Kimmy on Jul 8, 2009 8:23:02 GMT
COURSE Class/Left/Right Gall/Tight Und/Flat Finish Fences Suit Speed/Stam AINTREE (MILDMAY) A L TIGHT FLAT EASY AVERAGE SPEED AINTREE (NATIONAL) A L GALL FLAT EASY DIFF STAMINA ASCOT A R GALL UNDU STIFF Q.DIFF AYR A L GALL FLAT EASY AVERAGE STAMINA BANGOR D L TIGHT FLAT EASY DIFF SPEED CARLISLE D R NORMAL UNDU STIFF EASY STAMINA CARTMEL D L TIGHT UNDU EASY EASY CATTERICK C L TIGHT FLAT EASY Q.DIFF SPEED CHELTENHAM A L NORMAL UNDU STIFF DIFF STAMINA CHEPSTOW B L GALL UNDU EASY Q.DIFF DONCASTER A L GALL FLAT EASY Q.DIFF STAMINA EXETER D R NORMAL UNDU STIFF AVERAGE SPEED FAKENHAM D L TIGHT UNDU EASY AVERAGE SPEED FOLKESTONE C R NORMAL UNDU EASY DIFF SPEED FONTWELL B 8 NORMAL FLAT EASY AVERAGE SPEED HAYDOCK A L GALL FLAT EASY DIFF STAMINA HEREFORD D R GALL FLAT EASY AVERAGE SPEED HEXHAM D L NORMAL UNDU STIFF AVERAGE STAMINA HUNTINGDON C R GALL FLAT EASY DIFF KELSO D L TIGHT FLAT STIFF EASY KEMPTON A R TIGHT FLAT EASY Q.DIFF LEICESTER C R GALL UNDU STIFF EASY STAMINA LINGFIELD B L NORMAL UNDU EASY EASY LUDLOW D R NORMAL FLAT EASY AVERAGE SPEED MARKET RASEN C R NORMAL UNDU EASY Q.DIFF SPEED MUSSELBURGH D R TIGHT FLAT EASY Q.DIFF NEWBURY A L GALL FLAT EASY AVERAGE STAMINA NEWCASTLE A L GALL FLAT STIFF Q.DIFF STAMINA NEWTON ABBOT B L TIGHT FLAT EASY EASY SPEED PERTH D R TIGHT FLAT EASY EASY SPEED PLUMPTON C L TIGHT UNDU STIFF DIFF SPEED SANDOWN A R NORMAL FLAT STIFF Q.DIFF STAMINA SEDGEFIELD D L TIGHT UNDU EASY EASY SPEED SOUTHWELL C L TIGHT FLAT EASY DIFF STRATFORD D L TIGHT FLAT EASY EASY SPEED TAUNTON D R NORMAL FLAT EASY Q.DIFF SPEED TOWCESTER D R GALL UNDU STIFF EASY STAMINA UTTOXETER C L NORMAL UNDU EASY Q.DIFF SPEED WARWICK C L TIGHT FLAT EASY AVERAGE WETHERBY B L GALL FLAT EASY DIFF STAMINA WINCANTON C R GALL FLAT EASY AVERAGE WORCESTER C L GALL FLAT EASY EASY STAMINA
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Post by Les on Jul 8, 2009 8:28:09 GMT
read the bit about soft lead how many of these can get a stiff 7f?
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 8, 2009 8:29:09 GMT
You star Kimmy.
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 8, 2009 8:35:23 GMT
its begging for a 20/80 anyway? Stan James have this at 9/1,so yes I will be showing an interest.At this price I think it has to be seen as a value bet surely?
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Post by Les on Jul 8, 2009 8:35:30 GMT
im saying it was over c/d last time out it was,nt it was a mile im even more convinced he intends to go from the front
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 8, 2009 8:43:16 GMT
This was just posted by Proprice ;
"The Newmarket races 1.30, 2.35 and 3.10 are all 'key' races IMO."
It will be interesting to see if he puts up selections pre race again.
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 8, 2009 13:22:16 GMT
Proprice indeed put up his pre race selections again today ;
"Newmarket 1.30 Balaagha, Cumana Bay, Good Again 2.35 Habaayib, Misheer, Capercaillie 3.10 Spacious, Goldikova "
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 8, 2009 19:01:44 GMT
Proprice's results today ;
Newmarket 1.30 Balaagha, Cumana Bay, Good Again [glow=red,2,300]BALAAGHA 2ND[/glow] 2.35 Habaayib, Misheer, Capercaillie [glow=red,2,300]MISHER 1ST HABAAYIB 2ND[/glow] 3.10 Spacious, Goldikova [glow=red,2,300]GOLDIKOVA 1ST[/glow]
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 8, 2009 19:07:43 GMT
On your advice Les I have had a go at rating a race.Let me know if I have gone wrong anywhere please ;
NEWMARKET-3.10-09/JULY
All the aces...253...27...138...153... Duncan...244...18...124...153... Campanologist...244...14...129...144... Doctor fremantle...234...14...123...129...
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Post by Les on Jul 9, 2009 11:07:47 GMT
sorry jason working shifts and no time,but speak with you tomorrow night best of luck hope your top rated pulls for you i,ll put on a wee bet 20/80
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 9, 2009 12:09:00 GMT
I dutched the top three there at 6.4 , 3.5 , and 5.8 .
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 9, 2009 12:09:51 GMT
sorry jason working shifts and no time,but speak with you tomorrow night best of luck hope your top rated pulls for you i,ll put on a wee bet 20/80 No problem mate and thanks.
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 9, 2009 15:00:51 GMT
Dutched the top three and the fourth one won lol.
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Post by Les on Jul 10, 2009 19:49:23 GMT
have went through some of saturdays races,think itsvery very tough to pick out a top rated bet,how about you jason
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 10, 2009 20:14:47 GMT
LOL Its funny you say that.I was going to ask what I was doing wrong,as I was struggling with the saturday cards,just as you mention.Do you think or have you found this to be the case with weekend racing generally?I know weekend racing and bank holidays seem to throw up the unexpected more often than is noticed on weekdays.
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Post by Les on Jul 10, 2009 20:27:30 GMT
went over and over the races i,ve rated and can find nothing so its a dutch for me
3.10 york moonquake..........238............24........135........139 kingdom of fife......232............22........131........134 riggins*.................227*..........20.......131.........137 re balerelo.............227............17......125..........131 mutajarred.............225............12.......120.........125
* i,ve stared riggins because after going over its 8th 2nd last out it should be ignored,so giving it a consistency of 20
going to dutch moonquake,kingdom,and riggins
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Post by Les on Jul 10, 2009 20:34:55 GMT
dont know jason seem to be stuck once i get to this stage.know the vdw boys go over the races starting from the top working there way down the ratings list,will just dutch till i find out more hopefully . have the jock bingham books and he puts great store in ditance winners and coming down in weight from lto?
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 10, 2009 20:36:30 GMT
I think I will join you,as this seems to be our best bet for the day.
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Post by Les on Jul 10, 2009 20:42:11 GMT
as for your dutch the other day i had a dutch double 3x3 bet and had firebet going on to any of the 3 you dutched lol
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Post by makingitslowly on Jul 10, 2009 20:46:50 GMT
dont know jason seem to be stuck once i get to this stage.know the vdw boys go over the races starting from the top working there way down the ratings list,will just dutch till i find out more hopefully . have the jock bingham books and he puts great store in ditance winners and coming down in weight from lto? The problem is that with"shortening" the field.Although it leaves the most likely winners it also leaves us with the hardest to seperate individuals.
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Post by Les on Jul 10, 2009 20:48:21 GMT
if ihad to be forced for some singles it would be midnight cruiser 2.20 ascot perfect shot 3.55 notts
but stick with the dutch
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Post by Les on Jul 10, 2009 20:51:45 GMT
i,ll do the vdw ab bc bet
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