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Post by Arkle55 on Jan 16, 2011 12:53:41 GMT
BC, would it not have been better to ask M if he felt it was inflamatory or not before the removal of the post, as we all have different levels and reasons as to which may or may not upset us. For all we know M may have have viewed it has water of a ducks back.
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Post by BC on Jan 16, 2011 12:58:27 GMT
BC, would it not have been better to ask M if he felt it was inflamatory or not before the removal of the post, as we all have different levels and reasons as to which may or may not upset us. For all we know M may have have viewed it has water of a ducks back. No. I accept that what you wrote, in the big scheme of things, wasn't that bad. However, when someone takes offence, it's often too late - you only have to look at the 'Bold Gate' incident to see that.
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Post by Arkle55 on Jan 16, 2011 13:14:55 GMT
M, a few post back you was going to reveal the method / a method. Presumably that ment you had learned something. Your last post to me implies the complete opposite. M is it not better that i give my opinion or should i say i agree with everything you say but really i do'nt. Afterall forums are mainly about opinions or have i got that wrong. BC, hope this post was more diplomatic. By the way the smiliey smashing out the brains of another smiliey, is that inflamatory or just a giggle.
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Post by Arkle55 on Jan 16, 2011 13:26:19 GMT
BC, would it not have been better to ask M if he felt it was inflamatory or not before the removal of the post, as we all have different levels and reasons as to which may or may not upset us. For all we know M may have have viewed it has water of a ducks back. No. I accept that what you wrote, in the big scheme of things, wasn't that bad. However, when someone takes offence, it's often too late - you only have to look at the 'Bold Gate' incident to see that. BC M did not take offence and to compare m to BG is wrong unless they are the same person. Im not sure what forums you read but BG has been on a few and on each and every one that i have been on BG shows the same pattern, of not liking when people can see through him, and im not the only one who can do that. BG's response is to always chuck the toys out of the pram.
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Post by BC on Jan 16, 2011 13:37:01 GMT
M, a few post back you was going to reveal the method / a method. Presumably that ment you had learned something. Your last post to me implies the complete opposite. M is it not better that i give my opinion or should i say i agree with everything you say but really i do'nt. Afterall forums are mainly about opinions or have i got that wrong. BC, hope this post was more diplomatic. By the way the smiliey smashing out the brains of another smiliey, is that inflamatory or just a giggle. Boy, come to my office. But seriously, you can disagree as much as you like. You can give your opinion, no problem with that - UNLESS you are rude, which you were. Can we move on, or are we going to discuss this some more?
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Post by BC on Jan 16, 2011 13:43:49 GMT
BC M did not take offence and to compare m to BG is wrong unless they are the same person. Im not sure what forums you read but BG has been on a few and on each and every one that i have been on BG shows the same pattern, of not liking when people can see through him, and im not the only one who can do that. BG's response is to always chuck the toys out of the pram. Hi Arkle, What Bold gait does on other forums is not the point. If I remember correctly, you welcomed his first post here with the word "Yawwwwn". What he knows, doesn't know, does, did, or would have done is irrelevent. That wasn't right was it? Am I being unreasonable?
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Post by Arkle55 on Jan 16, 2011 14:27:38 GMT
BC, yes i think you are being unreasonable. Where is your office
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Post by Kimmy on Jan 16, 2011 14:51:06 GMT
Arkle,
Enough is enough!
You're style of writing is at times abrasive to say the least, for which there is no need.
Moreover, your contributions in the main - both here and on other forums where I have come across you - appear to be in the form of questions of others or derogatory comment on their contributions, without ever chipping in with your share of group knowledge.
I would suggest that you mind your manners in future and engage brain before fingers on the keyboard. Try to get along rather than antagonise people, it goes a long way.
The choice is yours, but I would remind you that members are expected to act in a civilized and courteous manner towards other members. If that is beyond your ability then you will leave me with no option but to terminate your membership.
Oldtimer
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Post by Arkle55 on Jan 16, 2011 16:38:43 GMT
Admin,prior to your post i had already decided that was my last post on the subject. Lite of the situation was being made hence the smilies. As you brought the subject up of other forums may i ask what user name did you use when you made your contributions and on what forums please.
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Post by Arkle55 on Jan 16, 2011 22:48:08 GMT
Admin, now that i am aware of your user name (OT) a couple of points. Why are you so against me asking questions, it is not the first time you have mentioned this, it really is a unique way to learn. Also why would you say in your post that i do not chip in with my share of group knowledge. I think i made plenty of contributions within the VDW selection thread with plenty of winners, maybe you just did not appreciate what i was doing but that does not matter, if you do not want to ask questions on how those winners was found that is totally up to you but had you asked you may have found my response at the time enlighting. So i would suggest you mind your manners in future and engage your brain before fingers on the keyboard, (now who is the one being rude/ abrasive, your words not mine OT) Maybe you would like to explain yourself without your admin cap on.
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Post by Les on Jan 17, 2011 0:14:01 GMT
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Post by BC on Jan 18, 2011 13:57:20 GMT
I had a tenner on a horse today and it came in at 20 to 1. Unfortunately, the rest of the field finished at 12:35. BC
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Post by Les on Jan 31, 2011 23:41:20 GMT
after reading and re-reading makingitslowlys posts and yet again reading spells it all out is the key,making your own book from vdw,s figures and getting a price better than these prices
and in that case what are the average over round for certain races?
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Post by Old Timer on May 19, 2011 13:23:11 GMT
I guess this is the place to stick my recent observation for this year's racing: individual races are of considerable less monetary value than the same races were last year, e.g. Lincoln last year Cl 779 this year Cl 623 Chester Cup last year Cl 748 this year Cl 623
This means of course that the AR values are becoming increasingly compromised. It's a problem I've wrestled with for several years, as previously there were races that were way over-valued for the class of horse running in them - the Carlisle Bell was one, plus there were several at Brighton.
However, the major differences this year has meant a diversion in my methodology. I believe that for comparison purposes it is probably better to compare the average OR for the race rather than the monetary value of the race.
Now I am aware that this also has its drawbacks in that it only works on a race by race basis, plus is only really applicable to handicap races. However, as I rarely look at anything but handicaps, all-aged up to June and in general only the better class ones, I'm hopeful it should provide me with a better comparison of relative ability. I also take into account the OR of the horse on the occasion and weight carried, plus the distance it won by.
Nothing's perfect, but I'm giving it a whirl. I'd be interested to see if anyone else has come across this recent problem and what they're doing to try and compensate.
Oldtimer
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Post by Les on May 19, 2011 15:01:56 GMT
very strange that you should put up this post today asked a question over on uk betting tips if it would better using bhb ratings rather than ability ratings ,trying to get in a way of working for royal ascot coming up if i could content myself with using bhb ratings .it would make things simpler and faster ,just that leap of faith?
o/t i like to keep track of these horses bye top rated bhb in race rather than average
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Post by Old Timer on May 19, 2011 15:44:16 GMT
Les,
I keep both for the NH, but for my purposes I prefer the average plus the OR of the horse and distance won/lost, from which I can work out how much improvement is needed for today's task. Doesn't always work I can assure you, but points me in the right direction more often than not - Our Joe Mac and Charlie Cool were the best in their race today and both made the frame; no one could have picked the winner!
Cheers
OT
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